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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

i think this is actually the first rob zombie ive ever seen
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He always does grotesque and gruesome  
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a huge fan of Rob Zombie but I have a criticism about Halloween.  I found the Michael Myers back story uneccessary.  
I first watched John Carpenters 'Halloween' 25 years ago (I was 10 at the time) and it scared the crap out of me.  From then on, Michael Myers was around every corner and every time the light was turned out at bedtime, he was there, in the shadows.  That is the mark of a damn good film.
Michael Myers is the boogeyman.  To give him a reason for what he became detracts from the point of his existence: he is an unknown psycho chasing you for unknown reasons - if you begin to understand him, he loses his edge.
I don't want to empathise with Michael Myers; I want him to scare me.

And, Gellarbing, approach previous Rob Zombie films with caution as they can be pretty brutal (but fun).  Here's a clip of the intro to 'House of a 1000 Corpses' (Zombie's first film), with the best character of all time: Captain Spaulding...

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think nothing beats the original classic film bud however I do think it was a decent remake in the sense that it offered something different...after all we could have been delivered a carbon copy of the first film which would never be as creepy or as well acted or staged let alone keep or reproduce the original atmosphere instead though Zombie give us a different insight into the character...attempting to show why he may have become the monster we know...whether he done that succesffully or not...its down to everyone's own individual opinion but I do think he has to be commended for the effort
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally agree with you, mate, the original can never be bettered (I am very skeptical about remakes, in general).  And Zombies take on the story does give a unique insight into the world of Michael Myers (particularly the asylum scenes).  I just feel that, the less I know about Michael the more he scares me,
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny this is the big argument and discussion we all seem to have here
and I do think most share your reluctance and skepticism on remakes...I however differ and see them in no worse a light then sequels really which can be equally as bad in my opinion.....both use a good or great original film or concept to recreate a new picture..

I do get what your saying though about knowing less can be better  
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to admit that I'm also quite skeptical about sequels, but only in certain circumstances.  Some films (Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Indy etc.) have enough fuel to keep them going, whereas other films are stand alone and sequels can, and do, diminish their original impact.  I thought that Halloween 2 was uneccessary, as the original was all that was needed to tell the story of Michael Myers, and full credit to Rob Zombie for sticking to the original narrative (Halloweens 3 - ad infinitum are just a waste of film).
On the subject of remakes, I read in this months Empire mag that they are remaking The 1941 Lon Chaney Jr. classic The Wolfman, with Benicio Del Toro and Anthony Hopkins.  I hold my hand up and will admit that I am quite excited about this particular remake as it looks very good, but moreover, apparently the special effects will be overseen by none other than Rick Baker of An American Werewolf in London fame... rock n roll!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh check out these discussions here mate

http://filmflicking.myfastforum.o...out844.html&highlight=wolfman
http://filmflicking.myfastforum.o...out941.html&highlight=wolfman

I actually feel that the Wolfman could be absolutely bloody amazing or one of the biggest disasters ever...depending on how its made and the script of course

As for remakes generally...I think people automatically jump to a conclusion as soon as they hear the word 'remake' that they are trying to replace the original or its like how dare this modern film maker think he can do a film better than our classic and in ways I can understand this but for some reason these same people don't see sequels in the same vain...its very curious because they are far more sequels for me that have ruined the concepts of the original and have dimninished their impact than remakes.... or example...Terminator, Matrix, almost every horror movie  
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

house of 1000 corpses rules


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