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Lucifer_666

Indy and Dark Knight are going to be Long!!!

I read this lately somewhere and I can't now remember where....
But its interesting


Yet when polls and general chatter about this Summer's movies comes up, there are two which stand far above the others in terms of anticipation - "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" and "The Dark Knight".

Now it looks like both will also stand above the other films in terms of runtime. Hollywood Elsewhere reports that the new Indy clocks in at 140 minutes, easily beating the 127 minute runtime of "Last Crusade" in 1989. Composer John Williams confirms this as well, saying that the film has seven reels at about 20 minutes each.

Early screenings for the film are also being kept tight. The film has been screened only once so far, and the studio gets to see it next week. After that, the only other screenings will be the premiere in Cannes (expected on the 20th) and press screenings in major international territories the week of release - at the earliest only 2-3 nights before the film's release on May 22nd.

Meanwhile early word on "The Dark Knight" is that Chris Nolan's cut clocks in at nearly three hours and it's unlikely to be cut down much further despite the studio's desire for a more manageable 150 minutes. Nolan's "Batman Begins" came in at 140 minutes so a slightly longer runtime for the sequel doesn't seem surprising and the immaculately conceived Devin Faraci over at CHUD thinks that, and I tend to agree, it'll probably come in at about 165 mins.

Responses to the articles have been interesting in that many seem surprisingly concerned about the Indy runtime, yet have absolutely no problem with a three-hour Batman. Very early buzz on Indy already warns to 'keep your expectations in check'.


 
Catnapper

I don't care how long there are as long as they're good and I enjoy them! I see Harrison Ford's already talking about how he's up for another film   ....and I saw an article that says the new Indy film won't be as good as people think and that Shia LaBoeuf could be seen as the Jar Jar Binks of the film   ......course, that's just one person's opinion which sounds a load of rubbish anyway!  
Lucifer_666

Funny I remember alot of people saying that about the Last Crusade too when it was first released...I'm not that worried about it

And I don't think anyone could be as bad as Jar Jar Binks  

I read that too about Ford up for another too ....that would be great , ....but there is also speculation that Indy dies in this one too  
Catnapper

Noooooo....they can't kill Indy   Maybe it ends so we think he's dead but he's really alive. He must be alive if HF is saying about another film!
Lucifer_666

Many are saying it is just a ruse to get people off the scent that he does actually die in Crystal Skull ....but being honest I can't see it myself ....why would they want to kill him off?? that isn't what the Indy movies are about??
Jipdog

Posted this in a different thread but, Indy ca't be killed off as he drank from the Holy Grail in Last Crusade and is therefore immortal. Be a bit silly if he copped it.
Lucifer_666

 I get the feeling mate your going to be a bit of a dog with a bone with this issue of Indy and the Holy Grail aren't you?
 Your going to go absolutely crazy if you find out that Indy's dad is dead now too  
Catnapper

Good thinking JD   ......I'd forgotten about the Holy Grail   Good to think Indy's immortal  
Lucifer_666

I'm not entirely sure that the idea stands up though Jipdog...I just get the impression that Lucas and Spielberg haven't given the matter a second thought and that Indy is very much still mortal ...sure with that premise whats the point of Indy running from anything...he's be like Connor McCloud  
Catnapper

I've come up with an explanation for Lucas and Spielberg   .......Maybe it's a short lived thing and you'd need to top up with water from the Holy Grail every now and then to keep it working? The Grail was lost....so therefore Indy's mortal again?
lord vader

i hate when they cut films , there just doing it top make more money in the long run , bye bringin oput extended version dvd's , yeah it ain't comfy sitting in a cinema for 2 or 3 hrs but i'd rather do that and see the whole film than bu it then have to but another copy 6 months later .
Catnapper

Yeah I hate when they have Extended Editions, Special Editions, Anniversary Editions and Directors Cuts too......it costs a fortune if the dvds have extras you really want to see.
Lucifer_666

Yeah good thinking Cat.... and funny that you mention that theory because that is originally what I had thought when I first seen the film...that it was something that you had to keep taking to stay alive  

Anyone of you fans of Bladerunner....that film took the biscuit in that regard ....more versions then there was characters in it  
Catnapper

It seems a logical theory Luc and about the only way to explain it if Indy ever died! (Though I hope they never kill him off   )

I've only got the 1 DVD of Blade Runner  
Lucifer_666

Indy will never be killed....he may be revamped though  


So have I only got the one version of Bladerunner..well no I have the very original on tape....every year they release a new one    
Jipdog

Catnapper wrote:
I've come up with an explanation for Lucas and Spielberg   .......Maybe it's a short lived thing and you'd need to top up with water from the Holy Grail every now and then to keep it working? The Grail was lost....so therefore Indy's mortal again?


Got to admit Cat, that idea did pop into my head quite a few times when I have watched Last Crusade, even before Crystal Skull was announced. Thing is, if it's not mentioned in the film as to why he isn't immortal, then some people would get a bit peeved as it messes with the Indy lore. Luc, your right. I ain't going to let it drop. I have the bit between my teeth!
Lucifer_666

 I can't really afford to talk on this as I'm as bad when it concerns Terminator 2 and the way they altered the way time operates there....but then again that is more clear cut......
Catnapper

Lucas peeved a lot of fans with his Star Wars prequels JD so I don't think he'd worry about peeving Indy fans! Filmmakers usually manage to come up with explanations when they write themselves into a corner like they've done with Indy's immortality. I thought at the time it was a strange thing to do in The Last Crusade but as it was the final Indy film I don't suppose they thought of any consequences plot-wise in future Indy films!
Lucifer_666

I doubt there will be much explanations at all...I think we the viewers will be just expected to accept that Indy is vunerable and can be killed....perhaps it might be brought up in some fan interview with Lucas later on and he'll laugh it off with a whimsical excuse but I do reckon thats all we'll get  
Jipdog

Catnapper wrote:
Filmmakers usually manage to come up with explanations when they write themselves into a corner


Don't think Lucas will though. He didn't with the Star Wars prequel trilogy. Granted, he tried to tie things up nicely in Episode III, but there were things that still didn't add up, such as, R2 and 3PO had their memories wiped, but Obi Wan didn't so he would have remembered R2 and 3PO but in episode IV, he doesn't remember them (unless he has Jedi Alzheimers). Come to think of it, if R2 had his memory wiped, how can he claim to be the property of Obi Wan when he has no memory of him? If you look over the course of the 6 films, they are littered with errors like that.
Lucifer_666

Lucas really is a terror for this kind of thing Jipdog...you could even argue the same in the original trilogy....the whole Leia being the sister bit never really added up to me....for a start she was a possible love interest for Luke in the first two films...and how in the name of God did Vader after capturing her on numerous ocassions even torturing her did he not sense
the force strong with her?? Also how come she never used the force even in small ways?? Both Anakin and Luke did!

Though it could be argued that Obi Wan never mentions not knowing the droids...he does say however that he doesn't remember owning one besides like everything else Lucas can just throw in that line that explains everything away...."What I told you was true......from a certain point of view"    
Jipdog

Nah, it's Jedi senility I tells ya!
Lucifer_666

So what your saying Jipdog is that Obi wan's senile condition is being disguised and hidden by the "What I told you was true from a certain point of view" words that he always spouted?? Interesting.....and it could also explain why he stopped fighting Vader.....perhaps when he saw Luke he forgot Vader was even there and made it easy then for the final blow to be struck?  
Jipdog

At last! Somebody who understands me!
Lucifer_666

Catnapper

JD and Luc both on the same wavelength....should we be afraid?!
Lucifer_666

Be very very .....very afraid!!

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