Catnapper
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Famous Five get the Disney treatmentIt's an animated Disney TV series that will feature the kids of the original Famous Five.......except they'll be multicultural  they'll be armed with gadgets and a fake environmentalist appears too! I know the original characters would be too old fashioned these days so they've made the new ones more up to date......... but having the kids multicultural??? The pc lot have struck again!
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Lucifer_666
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 Unbelievable isn't it? Here we go again with this pc lot...god forbid we showed five white kids in a film or series .....we might serious hurt all those other ethnic groups out there? Its complete madness...the funny part is nowadays it seems better that we have some kind of split marriage or perhaps a woman with kids from different fathers than to show an all white cast...how times have changed I'm saying theat because remember the famous five were all related...Julian Dick and Anne were brothers and sister while George was their cousin
I wonder does this mean a cat will be joining Timmy after all we don't want the feline community to be left out
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Catnapper
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Yeah it's ridiculous Luc........I know the kids watching it won't know much about the original books (if at all) so they won't think anything of it but the original version had white kids in it, so are they all supposed to have ethnic partners?! If it's an English series expect to see a Polish builder crop up in it somewhere!
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a cat instead of a dog
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Lucifer_666
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Oh I forgot babe....is this the one where its set years later and its the kids of the original famous five that join and become another five? Well I suppose that does open it up to all colours religions or sexual preferences I still think Julian was gay!! hew maybe his partner will be the Polish builder Babe 
Oh no Timmy has to be a dog but this time he'll be a mongrel just to show again that multicultural theme
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Catnapper
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I said it was about the kids of the original characters Luc  .......it's funny but they showed a clip of the new series on the news tonight!
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Lucifer_666
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I know  I feel dumb now they actually have a trailer for it on the BBC site too if you wanted to see it 
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K
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My heart sank when I read about this! I've still got some original versions of the Famous Five books- they have the drawings of everyone with short back and sides haircuts for the boys, dresses for Anne. Timmy has always been a mongrel as far as I remember- he's a lurcher or something in the original drawings.
I bet the Five will have American accents too :(
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Lucifer_666
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In the tv series K, which I admit all my information for the Famous Five comes from , Timmy was some kind of sheep dog was he not?? Well he definitely looked like one of those dogs you would see on that show 'One Man and his Dog'
Though they do need to modernise it...I don't think some posh English kids with bowl haircuts, flowery dresses and dungarees thinking their torches are neat gadgets would really go down well here let alone in the States....in fact Americans would probably mistake them as the villains if they were to speak posh
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K
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No, no, no  . The charm of the Famous Five is their old fashioned attitudes and appearance. Their stories are like period pieces. I got so annoyed at the PC brigade correcting all their speech and actions. The whole point of them is to show what life was like in the 40s and 50s.
You are right that Timmy was a collie dog in the TV series [which I thought was nonsense]. However....
And I quote [ahem ahem]:
| Quote: | 'they heard George's clear voice coming down from the cliff behind them.
'Come on, Timothy! Come on!'
They sat up and looked to see what Timothy was like. They saw no fisher-boy- but instead a big brown mongrel dog with an absurdly long tail and big wide mouth that really seemed to grin! He was bounding all round George, mad with delight. She came running down to them.
'This is Timothy,' she said. 'Don't you think he is simply perfect?'
As a dog, Timothy was far from perfect. He was the wrong shape, his head was too big, his ears were too pricked, his tail was too long and it was quite impossible to say what kind of a dog he was supposed to be. But he was such a mad, friendly, clumsy, laughable creature that every one of the children adored him at once.'
'Five on a Treasure Island' by Enid Blyton, 1942. |
So these Disney types better stay true to the book! 
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Lucifer_666
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It all depends K on where you want it popular and exactly how much success you want the film to have? You see in my opinion if they make the film your saying it may appeal to some here (I count myself as one of that some too) but to people in America and many younger generations here it will be a complete turn off. I also hate this PC brigade you see trying to alter things or behaviours but to be honest I'm not sure it applies here K? I don't think they are altering language in the famous Five for pc reasons but because they think the kids will come across as pretentious posh toffs and going by the old tv series...they were!!! well apart from George perhaps 
As for Disney..they have done a cartoon set years later about the kids of the famous five ...not the original five...so I suppose they can go a bit different
There is another series being done though isn't there?
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K
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No, the PC brigade disapproved of the Famous Five because they said they showed bad attitudes to people who were 'different' in some way to the middle class setting of the Five e.g. working class, gypsies, single parents etc. [you could include George, the tomboy, in this, because she was not a 'typical girl'].
They also said the attitudes towards women/ girls were patronising e.g. Anne was never allowed to do anything exciting, she was always left at home preparing the picnic or whatever [although in later books she does get more of a go at adventuring, perhaps due to George's influence?].
They also said the Five were too white and middle class and should be altered to show a wider variation. I think they also disapproved of the constant use of the word 'queer' to describe 'different' people [which is nonsense, queer obviously didn't mean homosexual in the Famous Five books].
All these points are valid, but as I said, I think the whole charm of the Five is based on their middle class, old fashioned attitudes. I suppose as an adult I can laugh at it all, but maybe the PC brigade thought kids would pick up on the 'ist' attitudes or something. Certainly as a child I never picked up on the 'isms' or thought I should disapprove of people who were different to me. They were just characters in a story...!
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Emperor Morphetine
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Will the Americans never stop meddling with our literature? No doubt they'll be promising that it's better than the books while changing almost everything that made the books good.
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Lucifer_666
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Oh I see your argument now K...and I guess your right the pc crowds do and will alter this to be quite different than what it was originally intended....if only they could take away only those parts of the stories that they thought brought it down artistically rather than what they think is going to upset or annoy certain groups...far too much of the latter going on at the moment to the extent that it almost becomes second nature to expect these alterations to be done before they are for example when you mention the girls and Anne not being allowed to do anything exciting... When I think of a future Famous Five I just know that the girls are going to be really pro-active and most likely dominant...its ridiculous but its the way society has gotten...its exactly the same reason why you can't have an action film today with a main male character without having him partnered in some way by a female who must be equally brilliant or all these female spin off shows we keep getting
The Passion being the latest for me in this same kind of thinking having women in every important position and situation.... now like it or not but the Bible and Jesus' death really is a male show...his Apostles were all male, the high priests, Roman Soldiers, Pontius Pilot
I never read the books but if the tv series was any way similar I never picked up on any of the 'isms' either....but I also think we got to give children more credit too, you would think that when we were children we never experienced, watched or read anything bad (or later considered bad) that we feel we must now protect today's youngsters so vigourously
Have we all turned out so bad that we must curtail the kids of today from things that done us no harm?
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K
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Yes, I think its insulting for them to imply we're all so awful that we must have been scarred by our childhood reading
When I read the FF, I just thought they were old fashioned type kids doing old fashioned type things. Like Swallows and Amazons were too. I didn't relate my life to theirs at all, they were just adventure books.
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Lucifer_666
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Yeah your right..I still maintain they are just attempting to make everyone the same....erradicate individuality and original thought from the young....okay maybe I'm being a little melodramatic but still there is something to what I'm saying
And that is exactly the way children would take it today too when they read the books K but for some reason they have it in their heads that kids aren't clever enough to distinguish or recognise this and then will grow up sexist or prejudiced
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